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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 1, 2007 9:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Morgan (non-Dead - jazz)

lee morgan was a "HARD BOPPER" -- part of that means he came up with art blakey ("came up" means he played in art blakey's band at a young age and was put to the test: had to learn to play A LOT of jazz standards and hard bop originals on the spot, i.e. in front of an audience)

HARD BOP = A Jazz Idiom...one of the jazz idioms.... john coltrane via miles davis played "spiritual jazz" on all of his impulse releases but to some extent on his atlantic sets as well....anyway...

HARD BOP, to my thinking is the music BORN of be-bop (i.e. the music of charlie parker, dizzy gillespie and max roach -and others of course-)...music that you would identify to jazz initiates as "JAZZ." TO A LARGE EXTENT, Hard Bop is Originally Composed music, derived from be-bop forms (cherokee, night and day, all of me...i.e. popular music standards), BUT heavily blues influenced AND DESIGNED for improvisation....most stuff recorded in the early 50s through 1960 fits into this realm....after 59/60 it starts to get more complicated....(read: miles davie/modal forms, west coast and ORNETTE COLEMAN, ...they beautifully MUDDIED the picture)

but up till then you had guys who "came up" in BIG BANDS, now playing in smaller units riffing more freely on popular songs of the day, heavily blues influenced....a'la lee morgan, bobby timmons, art blakey, hank mobley, lou donaldson, donald byrd, sonny stitt, horace silver and countless others. SEE: all BLUE NOTE releases of this time.

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Poster: wineland Date: Oct 2, 2007 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Morgan (non-Dead - jazz)

Thanks for the jazz lesson today He Live's (sp?). The 50's is an era of jazz that I haven't delved into. Maybe Morgan is my proverbial big toe testing the 50's water. What are a handful of must haves from this era? Looks like I'm in for a trip to my library to do some musical exploration.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 2, 2007 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Morgan (non-Dead - jazz)

well...to be honest i am not so big into the 50s jazz, blue note or lee morgan style hard bop....i like it fine, it's just not an area where i feel like i need to check out everything, like say....1972 grateful dead.

however, here is a GREAT LINK, surf around a bit here....

http://www.jazzdisco.org/bluenote/

make sure to click:

http://www.jazzdisco.org/bluenote/4100-cat/

and the subsequent catalogue indexes,4200, etc.

as far as blue notes i like/recommend?....

pretty much all Herbie Hancock, Andrew Hill, Bobby Hutcherson, ABSOLUTELY ALL Wayne Shorter and Horace Silver --

maybe i would say Wayne Shorter-Juju, Horace Silver-Cape Verdian Blues are my favorites....also Art blakey-Night in Tunisia

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Poster: countmlbjam Date: Oct 3, 2007 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Lee Morgan (non-Dead - jazz)

The sidewinder is one of my faves.